What are you putting in the ground this year

Trying to get a read on what people are actually running outdoors this season, not just what the seed sites are pushing. I went with Zamal and a Malawi I got from a trader in 2019. Long season, i know, but I'm in zone 8b and I've got the time. Curious whether anyone is sticking with landraces or regionals, or if you're going with the newer stuff. Autos don't count, i want to hear about plants that actually need the sun to do its job. What made you pick what you picked. Seed stock you trust, something you ran before, climate match, trade? All of it is useful to me. Been a while since I asked what anyone else was doing out there.

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6 Comments

Experienced23h ago

Running a Zamal is a statement, respect for that. Most people talk about landrace terps but won't commit to the timeline it actually takes to get there. I went a different direction this year. Put down a Uzbekistan IBL I got through a collector last fall and a Lebanese I've been sitting on for two seasons. Zone 9a here so i have the latitude to push it a little later than most, and honestly the Lebanese finishes cleaner outdoors than people give it credit for. The hash terps on a well-grown Lebanese are something else, that dried fruit and old wood thing it does in the last few weeks of ripening is worth every extra day. My one thing with landrace runs outdoors is don't sleep on the pheno variation. The Uzbek pack i popped had maybe 4 distinct expressions across 8 plants. Two were kind of flat and piney, almost boring. But one was doing this anise and overripe stone fruit combination that stopped me cold every time i walked past her. That's the one you keep for next year, everything else is secondary. That Malawi from a 2019 trade is interesting though. What are you expecting out of it flavor-wise, do you have any info on the source population or is it more of a blind run?

Expert Grower22h ago

Lebanese finishing clean outdoors is accurate, at least in my experience running it in zone 7 back in the 90s. People underestimate how much climate shapes that population, the same seed stock can go resinous and tight in one garden and stretchy and mediocre two counties over. The pheno variation point stands too, though four distinct expressions across eight plants is pretty normal for an IBL that hasn't had serious selection pressure in a while, not remarkable.

Experienced23h ago

Autos don't count, lol okay. I'll let that slide since it's an outdoor thread. Genuinely cool to see people running proper long-season stuff. That Zamal commitment is no joke, some of those equatorial lines don't want to finish until november or later even in ideal zones. My honest take though: the pheno variation point from the reply above is real but it cuts both ways. With landrace packs you can pull something that stops you cold, sure, but you can also pop 8 seeds and get 6 that are just fine and nothing more. For someone who wants consistency outdoors over multiple seasons, a well-selected regional IBL is often a smarter starting point than a raw landrace unless you've got the space and patience to run big numbers. The Uzbek or Lebanese route makes sense for that reason, tighter breeding history, less chaos. The 2019 Malawi is the one i'd actually want to follow in this thread. Seed viability after that long is the first question, fridge storage or ambient? And yeah, blind run genetics outdoors in zone 8b with a true equatorial Malawi is a gamble, that thing might want another 4-6 weeks past what your season gives you. Curious what your plan is if it's still pushing pistils in late october.

Seedling11h ago

Zone 10b Organic. All seeds from RKS except the OG I do a combination of old favorites, newly bred cultivars and I usually end up throwing in a Landrace to make things interesting. Old Favorites this year: Thai OG Sour Bubba (heavy hitter, tastes great, great for sleep) Returning Cultivars this year: Watermelon x Bubblegum (new cultivar for Winter 2025) I chose this cultivar because it was 2 of my favorite cultivars crossed. Blueberry Cheesecake (so tasty and smooth) New Cultivars this year: Maui Pineapple Chunk (Pineapple Express x Wedding Cake) Molokai Frost (RKS Limited Batch - Hindu Kush x Grape Ape) China Yunnan (one of the few cannabis hybrids occurring naturally in nature. Dates back to the Silk Road.) I just switched to Early Flower. NPK Total 3-14-15. 0-10-10 liquid Alaska Morbloom and 3-4-5 slow-release Espoma Flower Tone

Seedling1h ago

I'm already planning for 2027. Old Favorites returning next year: G13 Super Silver Haze Sensi Skunk King Louie XIII (maybe) New Cultivars (new to me) next year: Strawberry Gorilla G13 Widow (maybe)

Seedling2m ago

Oh yeah, I almost forgot for 2027 Old Favorite returning: Orange Crush (definitely) New Cultivars: something good from the Breeder Sherbinski